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After Lärm ended, some of these guys went on to form ManLiftingBanner. Before ManLiftingBanner there was Profound, one of the first European bands that followed in the slipstream of the ‘87/’88 straight edge revival. Profound started in 1988 as a 5 piece with Jos on 2nd guitar, so basically all the Lärm guys minus their singer plus Michiel and Burt. With that line-up we recorded the ‘Dutch Wolfpack’ demo.

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